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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.06 04:29:00 -
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It's so ******* boring. I like playing Infantry from time to time, I spawn in, select my fit and then I hear it, the RDVs bring forth hulking beasts of destruction. so I can't play as Infantry because the team will get stomped without me. Call in a rail, wait, destroy multiple tanks, recall. More RDVs, more tanks, call in wait, destroy another few tanks. Game ends and I haven't shot a single round from my rifle.
It's getting a little ridiculous, Ambush isn't the place for tanks, I asked CCP Saberwing about removing them but he said he did not know for sure if anything would come from it, they'd rather look at balancing tanks instead. A foolish idea and an impossible thing to balance when you have a small map and a single rail can see everything.
You cannot balance Ambush with Vehicles in it, it's all mostly open areas that tanks and Dropships can dominate in and once the team has its vehicles out there is no way to really stop them unless you focus multiple AV on them, and due to the fact it's such close proximity, you're going to get mowed down fast.
I can hold my own in an Ambush, but it's not fun for either side, and if there aren't players like me on the team that isn't tank spamming, it's gonna be a whole two minutes of getting smashed.
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You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:34:00 -
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Bump.
Lots of 6 tank games today, much fun CCP, thanks.
Useless (colourfulwordhere)
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:42:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Just give me a little more time to skill up my Forge Gun and I will remove some vehicles from Ambush for you.  Seriously though, part of the problem is that the most popular Infantry AV weapon is way underpowered right now. A small buff to the Swarm Launcher would go a long way to balancing Vehicles and keep Infantry from feeling so helpless. Buff missile damage by 30 = 250 damage per missile (down from 330 in 1.6) Buff range by 25m = 200m range (down from 400 in 1.6) These small buffs would get the Swarm Launcher a lot closer to being balanced. After seeing how that plays out we can determine if they need to be buffed any further.
No, my problem isn't that at all. My problem is that as a Tanker, I know how to play ambush with a crew of tankers so that you and your AV don't stand a chance. It won't be fixed by buffing AV unless it's to a point where it's OP as **** and fucks over every other gamemode. 6 tanks, sure I can take them on, 1v1 I'd kill them, problem is they will keep swapping out, they'll put their actives on, and then the first 3 will disappear, then the other 3 will come along with their actives up and will **** you some more, and then they'll go off and then next three will be back.
And it's not like you can go get a tank of your own either, because there's no where to run, you are ****** until the game is over and if you leave and try to find a new match? Congratulations, you're back in the same ambush as before.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 15:56:00 -
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Amarrgheddon wrote:If only there was some type of weapon that CCP could implement that would destroy tanks. It seems then infantry would have a chance to defend themselves.
Spare me your sarcasm and stop being a moron.
In a 1v1 situation, I can kill the enemy tank just fine with a Forge or Swarms, however in the situation of 6 tanks on such a tiny map, coordinating is near impossible due to the fact you spawn and you die immediately. I shouldn't be able to roflstomp 6 tanks, that's a fact. Remove the Vehicles from what is pretty much a small TDM arena and just allow Infantry there.
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You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:07:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:Just give me a little more time to skill up my Forge Gun and I will remove some vehicles from Ambush for you. Seriously though, part of the problem is that the most popular Infantry AV weapon is way underpowered right now. A small buff to the Swarm Launcher would go a long way to balancing Vehicles and keep Infantry from feeling so helpless. Buff missile damage by 30 = 250 damage per missile (down from 330 in 1.6) Buff range by 25m = 200m range (down from 400 in 1.6) These small buffs would get the Swarm Launcher a lot closer to being balanced. After seeing how that plays out we can determine if they need to be buffed any further. No, my problem isn't that at all. My problem is that as a Tanker, I know how to play ambush with a crew of tankers so that you and your AV don't stand a chance. It won't be fixed by buffing AV unless it's to a point where it's OP as **** and fucks over every other gamemode. 6 tanks, sure I can take them on, 1v1 I'd kill them, problem is they will keep swapping out, they'll put their actives on, and then the first 3 will disappear, then the other 3 will come along with their actives up and will **** you some more, and then they'll go off and then next three will be back. And it's not like you can go get a tank of your own either, because there's no where to run, you are ****** until the game is over and if you leave and try to find a new match? Congratulations, you're back in the same ambush as before. If AV is balanced correctly it might take 3 AV to kill 1 tank, but it will only take 6 AV to kill 6 tanks due to focus fire.
If that's your opinion of balance, then AV needs more nerfing, takes two AVers to focus fire and kill a single tank with ease. I don't believe there is a problem with AV vs Tanks, little tweaks can be made, my problem is Ambush, where you cannot coordinate because the moment you spawn you get ****** by six tanks.
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You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:09:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Fox Gaden wrote:If AV is balanced correctly it might take 3 AV to kill 1 tank, but it will only take 6 AV to kill 6 tanks due to focus fire. If AV is balanced, a single AV will take out a single tank driver. If AV is balanced, a three-man tank will need three AV to kill it. The problem with vehicles vs. AV right now, is the number of people needed to combat any given other set of people should be near parity, since we're limited to exactly 16 vs. 16 on each side.
That's never going to happen, nobody wants that terrible idea implemented.
It takes one person to not be a moron to kill a single tank, it takes more effort to kill six tanks, Ambush doesn't let you do that because of it being such a tiny map, with no place to go, no place to group up and attack the tanks, you're just lambs for the slaughter.
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You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:11:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Call for AV removal in Domination
Its just annoying and i want it gone so i can run vehicles in peace and have tank vs tank battles
Don't be a **** Taka. pls.
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:28:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Call for AV removal in Domination
Its just annoying and i want it gone so i can run vehicles in peace and have tank vs tank battles Don't be a **** Taka. pls. Your taking sand out of the sandbox We should have a vehicle only/AV free mode then as a consequence
This isn't a sandbox Taka, give it up. It's a ****** little FPS with no actual content and terribad gameplay, Tanks have broken Ambush so bad it's really sad. Every fair proposal made is met by your ridiculous and backwards logic and will only serve to get tanks nerfed to ****. :)
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You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 16:40:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Call for AV removal in Domination
Its just annoying and i want it gone so i can run vehicles in peace and have tank vs tank battles Don't be a **** Taka. pls. Your taking sand out of the sandbox We should have a vehicle only/AV free mode then as a consequence This isn't a sandbox Taka, give it up. It's a ****** little FPS with no actual content and terribad gameplay, Tanks have broken Ambush so bad it's really sad. Every fair proposal made is met by your ridiculous and backwards logic and will only serve to get tanks nerfed to ****. :) Tanks will get nerfed to **** anyways most likely We have the blaster/railgun threads highlighted by CCP, you want the speed to be nerfed instead of EWAR and also want mods nerfed/restricted so i cant fit my tank how i want but i can my dropsuit, removal of tank in a mode but no addition of a vehicle mode to compensate, also infantry think we have too much ammo and recall is OP and in general mlt tanks are OP and are too hard to kill which will lead to proper tanks getting the boot etc etc etc
I wanted us to not be faster than LAVs, not a gigantic nerf, a slight one so LAVs could beat us, and I still want EWAR.
Hardeners are ridiculous, but I don't want them nerfed, rather than have it required to have two to survive, make it so one is needed and the only one you can have so you can fit other things and continue making it interesting.
We do have way too much ammo for the blaster, Missiles and Rails not so much. And the Recall along with swapping at a supply depot should require you out of combat (not being hit nor firing for let's say, 10 seconds.),
You don't even play ******* Ambush -¼_-¼ I do, I try to play Infantry for a bit and am greeted by a 6 man tank squad, it's dumb. It's just boring now, If by some miracle you manage to take down the 6, they will spawn in more to take its place. In Skirmish and Domi, we're a lot more balanced, Tankers can call AT in the red line safely, and AVers can group together and have multiple spawns, whereas ambush, unless your team calls the 6 tanks in first, you're dead.
King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire.
You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:56:00 -
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Amarrgheddon wrote:The number of times I have been killed by AV grenades since 1.7 came out is still 0.
Mines at 3, due to it being support AV, not soloallthethings AV
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You're a total git, Jason. - Kingbabar
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